7 steps to improve your FOREHAND LOOP (with Ferenc Horvath)
7 steps to improve your FOREHAND LOOP (with Ferenc Horvath)


The racket’s position should be under the
ball because we need to counter the backspin effect. A common error is to do an
automatic backswing which creates a big distance from the from the ball and the
incoming angle is just way too flat to execute a brush upwards. So the start
position will be really deep. We need to keep a low lean down upper body position.
We need to bend the right knee as much as we can and we lower the racket’s
position. Not way below the table but below the ball. When you execute your forehand opening
up loop, you need to start swinging from the underarm and wrist. This is what
can be accelerated the fastest. This is much faster than your shoulder
could ever be. So you can avoid a general mistake of swinging your arm up using
your shoulder muscles. That should be avoided. Make sure that you swing up your
wrist and elbow and if it’s accelerated into a certain speed it will take your
arm up. In general, when it is heavy backspin
and the arc is very low you need to open up quite lot so you are able to brush the side of the ball When you start swinging up your wrist and
elbow you need to make sure that you don’t slap your elbow up and that you
don’t rotate the racket angle. Rotating the racket angle could end up different
contact points on the ball and it will alter the trajectory of your loop.
So you pick your open angle and through almost the very end of your
forehand loop you keep it same angle. You need to follow through with your
shoulder, so you could tell the ball much better where it should go,
to where it should land. And the end is somewhere here up at your forehead. and beware not to cross it to the left shoulder, because you would
create a lot of side spin instead of topspin which will not be useful against
heavy chop balls. So you make sure that you work on your right side without
crossing the racket at your face. One thing that could stop you having a good relaxed shoulder support is keeping the racket
too close to the body. Everyone can try pulling the racket in. It makes your
shoulder pretty useless. You will not feel any possibility to support your
your loops. So you need to make sure that you’re looping action is quite far from
the body and then you get a really released and relaxed shoulder action. You need to try to execute the forehand
opening up loop on the ball’s arcs highest point. In case you get
heavy backspin, this is pretty much close to the table. So most of the time the ball’s
highest point is at the end of the table and right after that it’s falling
down quite fast. So one of the most common mistake is that you take too much
distance from the table. Make sure you hug the table. You can be really close.
You take your position – most likely your left foot is under the table –
it’s totally alright – and your body is rotated out and pointing away to the
right. The highest point will be just in front of you. This is
what we want. The forehand wrist and elbow
action should be pretty much maximized. So there is no room
to slow it down. If you slow it down you lose speed, you lose spin. So the forehand
wrist elbow action should be pretty much as fast as possible. The key to get enough power is how your body weight and shoulder adds on into the
action. You need much more force being transferred inside from the right leg
which sends the body weight in towards the opponent, creating a little extra
power towards the direction you want to play. We don’t use raw power. We
use the same technique. We don’t slap the shoulder up – it doesn’t help – but the
whole weight transfer and the hip rotation should be faster. So the average
power topspin looks like this. The force is applied upwards. In case you want
more power, you need to keep the speed and you need to be faster and much more
dynamic with your hip and your knees. If you want to hit a
little more aggressive with your topspin don’t change the angles, don’t change the
shoulder power. The power comes from the technique. You need a released elbow
and wrist, really relaxed shoulder and then you need to maximize your rotation.

54 thoughts on “7 steps to improve your FOREHAND LOOP (with Ferenc Horvath)”

  1. FrankTRD The Red Diamond says:

    nice

  2. tech,games,movies and more india says:

    Thank you brother

  3. tech,games,movies and more india says:

    Please make a video for backhand chop

  4. Ryano Andreas Tandayu says:

    👍

  5. MarhO_Ok says:

    Ferenc used to be my trainer

  6. Abdul Rafay Mir says:

    Thankyou so much tom

  7. Abdul Rafay Mir says:

    I am really weak at forehand and backhand chop and push . Can you please give me some tips or make a video for this .
    I will be very greatful.

  8. P.G. Srinivasa says:

    Please make a video on chops .I am asking this from long time
    Please sirrrr

  9. TTJunkie says:

    Thanks, this will be helpful

  10. Oh Yeah yeah says:

    Thank you sir!

  11. Min Shwe Yi says:

    I was struggling where to end and how to get more spin. This video solves it all! Thanks a lot both of you. Looking forward to watch next awesome training clips.🏓

  12. Bruno Santana says:

    Excelent

  13. Ef Ts says:

    Ferenc speaks better English than Tom!

  14. Αχιλλέας Τρανουλίδης says:

    Thanks Tom, very good demo from Horvath

  15. Joygulplay says:

    Very good video. But the problem to me is that I have a slow paddle and it's harder for me to lift the ball when it has backspin. (Especially heavy backspin)

  16. Steve Burkett says:

    Tom or Ferenc. question for ya. Ferenc says to (consistently) maximize speed of the stoke and keep the bat angle consistent. So…if someone feed you balls with lots of backspin vs just a little backspin…what varies in how to successfully get each of these back over the net in a forehand loop?

  17. David Roddick says:

    great video – really well done. thank you!

  18. O'Dowd Eric says:

    Perfect ! Thanks !

  19. WwwKalaDendraGr says:

    Really cool!
    🏓👍

  20. Johannes Marsay Dal says:

    Végre egy Magyar srác! Jaj, de jó. 🙂

  21. Mætin Nazari says:

    Annoying to see that you don't include your wrist in your forehand loop

  22. Mi Hai says:

    Tom, I love how you are able to bring other people to explain certain areas of the game. This session was really good, Horvath brought some clear points across. I thought I saw all there is to see in terms of youtube forehand loop, but now I'm happy you did this video

  23. David Fam says:

    Thank you Tom and Ferenc for great demo. and explanation on the topspin loop.
    This will really help me to achieve more consistent returns.

  24. Наумов Дмитрий says:

    Complete pack of tips for loop. Thank you!

  25. 우성TV says:

    Thank you!😄

  26. mojtaba ghafoory says:

    Difficult part is in real game opponent push every where with different length and spin so it is very hard to 3rd ball attack consistently.

  27. ben mcmanus says:

    Hi Tom great video quick question have you done a video or have a link about putting either olive oil or baby oil on your bat to rejuvenate the tackiness of the rubber. Or do you have any general advice on this please thank you

  28. Tyrone Kim says:

    Very good explanation on the forehand loop technique, but when I see top ranked Chinese players, their loop start out with elbows straight with arms extended back and elbows bent a moment before contacting the ball, generating more contact speed. In other words, their swing is much bigger from start to finish. I think this is the difference between Western style and Asian style. What is your take on my opinion?

  29. Максим Олийнык says:

    That's great video. Very interesting! Thanks!

  30. 陳泓伯 says:

    at 7:55 , my greatest fear was smashing mt racket into the table

  31. Jure Prtenjaca says:

    I hate watching this videos! I always get so hyped up and then I have no one to play against 😀

  32. Saffire Animation says:

    You missed explaining the most important thing. The leg position.

  33. mediumdun18 says:

    This was a great video….one of the most helpful on your channel. Thank you coach Horvath and Tom!

  34. Bob says:

    Thanks Tom. Very good

  35. Tom Timor says:

    Thanks guys !

  36. PoomTheGamePlayer says:

    Does this generate top spin?

  37. Pete TennisDude says:

    By far THE best video I’ve seen describing the forehand loop 👏👏👏

  38. cm4sonu says:

    Send me a link to how to do forehand smash

  39. Mạnh Tuấn Nguyễn says:

    Thank you Must say that it’s really helpful, I struggled with the heavy back spin – ball goes down fast and very next to the edge of table. The distance too much from body to table is the key

  40. bojiboji1 says:

    Thank you. Great lesson. Do you ever do sessions with people like me who use the K grip?

  41. halter777 says:

    Good video, clean and easy to understand 🙂

  42. Edith Anyaibe says:

    Love the tutorial ❤. I really love playing table tennis in in my school but the net is too high and it's made out of wood what should I do. pls answer

  43. Fontsman says:

    To me the stroke and contact is more like a topspin power drive. The loop is usually a longer stroke at maximum speed combined with very fine ball contact which then generates the required super spin. Xu Xin probably has the most powerful loop in today's game. Ma Lin had a phenomenal loop and Timo Boll generates a heavy loop but with a quite compact stroke.

  44. Magyarszkij Abel says:

    Köszönjük Ferenc és Tom! Thanks a lot Ferenc and Tom!

  45. Rua says:

    Best lesson!

  46. Clifford The HouseVAnd says:

    i like how simple the technique is being taught, plain to understand. thanks for sharing.

  47. Ajay Raval says:

    Super useful

  48. umatic says:

    A very good video. Ferenc demonstrates the forehand topspin excellently. Can I make a request? A similar video with Ferenc for the backhand topspin – that would be great!

  49. João Paulo Nogueira says:

    Did anybody else hear the jack in the box song at 3:26

  50. Vyacheslav Brodovoy says:

    A very educative explanation from a calm and pleasant gentleman.

  51. DaJaguar says:

    One of the best vids about forehand loop against backspin, in depth minute details, thanks for sharing!

  52. Alka Kansal says:

    How to handle pip rackets returns

  53. Alka Kansal says:

    Thanks a ton

  54. Tilden Corbett says:

    Forence’s technique is very clean!

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